Why I refuse to be a Singtel mobile subscriber anymore
I have been a Singtel mobile subscriber for 13 years. I have wanted to stop being a customer of Singtel for the past 3 years. I was thwarted time and time again because of the iPhone. My love for Apple has overridden any distaste or dislike for the big red telco.
Now, with the impending launch of the iPhone 4, I am determined not to recontract with Singtel whether they hold exclusivity to the phone or not.
Why?
1. The Phantom 30%
I signed up for a contract for a VAS (value added service) sometime last year. I wanted to stay with my current plan (Classic) which didn’t provide 3G access, so I had to sign up for mobile on broadband. At that existing time period, the promotion was 30% discount with one year of contract.
My bill came the following month, and the 30% discount was not reflected. I assumed that the customer service officer had forgotten (not the first time they have forgotten requests) to activate my contract, and on second thoughts, maybe it was better not to be on a contract, so I left it at that. The itemised billing did not state whether the VAS was contracted or not.
Almost one year later, I signed in to their new one login service, “My Account” to check my recontract eligibility in the case I wanted to recontract with them for the iPhone 4 (still being open minded).
Imagine my surprise when I saw that I *am* on a contract. I called the customer service online and enquired. Apparently, the official status is, I am on a contract for BBOM which will end September 2010. I wanted to be certain of the error, so I asked her again if I was on a contract, which she impatiently replied the contractual end date, so I asked her how much I was paying now, and she replied $18.60 (before GST).
I was expecting her to make the connection as the regular price was $19.90 and I was on a promotional contract, but she didn’t, so I asked the officer why was I paying $18.60 every month for the past one year when I am supposed to be on a contract.
She replied that that $18.60 is supposed to be 30% off $19.90.
With my disbelief at her bad calculations, I had to ask her to redo the math again. She got confused, put me on hold for what seems like forever, and another officer answered.
Which he tried to do a smokescreen by telling me $18.60 *is* the promotional price. I am very confident that the regular price for BBOM was $19.90 when I recontracted, which I tried to politely tell him of my certainty and not try to pull off trying to make me believe that that was supposed to be the amount I was contracting for.
I had to get him to check (again) what was the regular price, so this time, he told me it was $19.90, so (for the nth time) I asked him why was I paying $18.60 then?
AGAIN, he replied that $18.60 (before GST) is 30% off $19.90 (after GST).
I cannot believe what I was hearing. Both officers have obviously bad product knowledge having to check the pricing time and time again, and I cannot find a word to describe their inability to realise 30% off $19.90 is definitely not $18.60, with or without GST!
And I am trying very hard not to doubt their ethics when they are obviously trying to make me believe that I was the one making the mistake.
This is just one of the many other incidents which I will describe briefly here as I really don’t want to write a 10-page essay.
2. ‘FREE” Colour-me-tones
TWICE, I had family members being subscribed to colour-me-tones WITHOUT permission. The first case was a new line under my name, which I clearly remember not agreeing to signing up for the VAS when I signed the form for the line.
The second case was very recent when my partner suddenly had her ringing tone changed. She was being subscribed to the VAS without her knowledge in the middle of her contract.
We have paperless billing (save the environment) and we don’t check the bills every month. The service is free for 3 months which thereafter they wil start charging you if you didn’t notice it. Which you wouldn’t unless someone asks why your ringtone becomes some cheesy song when they call you instead of the default, or you scrutinize your bills every month.
I admit the responsibility for checking my bills, but I don’t think it is ethical at all to subscribe people to services without their permission.
3. The mioTV false promotion
Back in those days when mioTV was initially launched and nobody wanted to pay to watch it because of their uninteresting programming, they had people going door-to-door to promote it. My father and a friend’s father was persuaded to sign up for it with the promises that they will not be subjected to any contract and that there will be no hidden charges.
The installer never explained that the service needed an internet connection or a ADSL phone line, and he conveniently plugged out my brother’s Pacific Internet ADSL line, plugged in Singtel’s one, and also conveniently plugged out my dad’s starhub set-top box, and replaced it with the mioTV’s media connectors. How irresponsible. Nobody told my father that my brother’s ADSL will be rendered useless if he chooses to watch mioTV or vice versa.
Again, imagine my poor dad’s surprise when he tried to cancel the service and was told it was a 6 month contract.
I had to send a few emails with a few long phone calls before they agree to give a 50% discount to the subscription, refusing to terminate the contract.
Horrible customer service
I am absolutely sick of calling their hotlines and dealing with their customer service officers because for all the incidents mentioned above plus a few more, I had to be put on hold countless times, sometimes up to an hour just to get a officer to speak to me.
That is not all, they will first refuse to take any responsibility for anything, trying to insinuate that it is your fault/responsibility, often had no clear answers to questions, and many times, they promised to get back to me, only to go missing in action.
Why I had to write this
These mentioned 3 incidents are just the highlights. I have had more encounters that will probably take me a week to finish. Wrong billing, bills get sent to the wrong address, signing up for services that didn’t got forgotten and didn’t get activated, transfers of services that didn’t happen even though it was done personally at the customer service counter.
I understand in big organisations, mistakes will be made. I don’t mind the mistakes as much as they try to do tai-chi each time a mistake occurs. I also don’t agree with prioritising sales over ethics.
If you know me personally, I am not one to lose my temper at all or become aggressive at all when dealing with customer service officers, sales people, whoever. In fact, I empathise with them so much, because I know how much shit they have to take in their job. I am the sort of person who will tip a person even if I had bad service, hoping the small tip will brighten up his/her day.
To get my blood rising to this level, it requires extraordinary effort. Singtel has made that extraordinary effort countless times and I wish it would be put to better use instead.
I don’t feel that big organisations should get away with things just because of their monopoly (unless it is Apple). I think it reflects badly on their management when the junior staff behaves in such a manner. How are they being trained?
What I am going to do
One of my new mottos is to become the change that I want. I am just one person and it is a minute effort but any effort is an effort. I am not going to be a Singtel mobile subscriber anymore once any of the other telcos launch the iPhone 4.
Sadly, I have to be stuck with mioTV because my love for football overrides all that anger. The phone I can do without, the football I really have to watch.
deric
left some thoughts on June 29th, 2010 11:05 pm
Damn the Sing family.
Mugunth
left some thoughts on June 29th, 2010 11:41 pm
And the “Birthday Offer”, where you can get twice as many minutes on your plan for free during your birthday month. But this minutes can be used only for $ingTel to $ingTel phones. I was bitterly cheated on my birthday month.
Theresa
left some thoughts on July 29th, 2010 3:01 pm
Hear, hear.
I’ve been calling ShitTel up every month since Feb 10 to F them upside down. If it’s not the lousy call connection, it’s charging me extra sms that they auto resend coz they couldn’t send it the first time due to some idiot network prob. If it’s not the line problem, it’s them charging me for stuff I did not use and cancelled the mth before. If it’s not charging me extra, it’s not providing caller ID, a service which I explicitly said I want to have. And if it’s not any of that, it’s not crediting back all the extra money I paid so that their billing department can clear last mth’s bill and the customer service officer promised will be returned to me at the next billing.
We really need to scrutinize their billing tightly and frequently. =_=
Sorry for using ur post to rant my frustration :P
Zee
left some thoughts on August 6th, 2010 2:30 pm
There’s no need for you to be a subscriber to watch football. My husband & I survived the WorldCup w/o subscribing to exorbitant fees. The internet’s more reliable than the TV, really.
Save yourself from more heartache & unnecessary bills.
Isman Tanuri
left some thoughts on August 6th, 2010 4:06 pm
Now those are really massive shortfalls in basic customer service. I am embarrassed now to mention that I am a SingTel customer. The few times that I had to deal with their customer service, they were pretty okay, I suppose. But this really reminds me of the SingPost debacle we went through.
The inconsistency in the level of service shows an organisational issue within these organisations. Maybe because of size of operations, but that is still no excuse. Every customer has a right to good, reliable service.
I hope you’re not on SingTel for your new iPhone 4 :)
Wanomoto
left some thoughts on September 12th, 2010 11:52 am
I have been a Singtel Installer for a short duration during the past year.
First of all, I would commend Singtel’s aggressive sales tactic and business approach in getting customers to sign up for its BPL. They clearly had a plan to break the monopoly that Starhub had on the pay-tv business. The 300++ million that they paid for BPL rights are starting to pay off with the amount of subscribers signing up.
However, more on a technical side, Singtel is not prepared to implement the miotv services over their aged telephone exchange network.
1)
For starters, singtel’s miotv is supported by 2 pieces of copper wire(phone line) connected to the modem from the wall socket, where 8 same pieces of copper wire(ethernet) is connected from the modem to whichever unit that requires the broadband/streaming connection(eg. set-top box, computer).
How are 2 pieces of copper wire going to deliver uninterrupted HD content, when that same connection is also used by other users to download and upload at high speed? We have plenty of reports in the news saying that they have frozen images and poor picture quality. As a result, Singtel is offering a 2nd free DEL line to the subscriber. Isn’t Singtel aware of this simple technicality? Why, in the rush to win over subscribers with BPL, they overlooked this small but major error?(streaming services require min of 20mbps uninterrupted bandwidth. phone line max out at 24++ mbps. Ethernet can reach 100mbps)
2)Singtel has been using the same old phone network from years ago to implement miotv. This same network is subject to wear and tear(not to mention not enough to support the bandwidth). That is why they have been blowing the trumpet on NGBN, saying that it can deliver smooth iptv. The problem is, THE NETWORK IS NOT EVEN READY YET! ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF HOUSES ARE CONNECTED WITH THE OPENNET TERMINATION POINT.
Why is it that one of the directors of Singtel can state in the papers (Digital Life) that miotv services will be delivered to homes by the end of this year? That is such a blatant lie! Not to mention the technical knowledge he has on his OWN products.
As a result, customers on the old phone network are made to wait countless times on the hotline when their miotv, internet, and even phone services are not working just to realize that their homes are not ready to receive the miotv services. Basically, they are not getting what they paid for. To be fair to the average customer, how are they supposed to know that their homes are even ready for the miotv service?
CASE STUDY
Bedok. Customers living in HDB wanting to sign for the early bird package were told that their estate is not ready to receive miotv. Just ask any one of your Bedok friends or neighbors whether they have ever come across this before. My bet is, almost the whole estate has.
Therefore, what in heavens is Singtel trying to do? At what lengths would they go to just to proudly announce in the news reports that they have 1.2million homes connected? There are customers not getting the proper service, and not just a few, but a large group, already paying for the services, but not getting it?
Singtel has made a major blunder. For all its shining efforts in the telco business, they have essentially cost themselves the trust of their customers, and depending on how they handle this, may even start to lose their current pool of subscribers to the emerging paytv providers.
Faith
left some thoughts on September 20th, 2010 4:09 pm
Hi, I was in such a lousy mood from my conversation with a less than helpful nor friendly CS operator from Singtel that I decided to google “Singtel bad service”. So here I am.
My boyfriend had to go down to Singtel Hello shops 9 times over the span of 2 weeks to get his Iphone 4 up and running properly. Myself, I was surprised by the SGD40+++ charge to my phone bill last month because of 3G usage. I’m not technologically savvy, but I know I specifically asked for a 12GB plan my last trip there. When I called, the extremely helpful CS operator told me it’s not her fault and I had to make another trip down to their Hello shop to rectify the problem. I covered the mouthpiece and told her to “Stuff it! I’m changing providers for the rest of my family as soon as possible.” I wish I had the guts to do it for real. She wasn’t even trying to be patronizing, all the time talking to me like I was an idiot (“Sigh… Ma’am you don’t understand…”)
I think your post pretty much summed up my frustrations. VAS especially has been a source of my trouble. I had to call 7 times to cancel that damned colour-me-tones, and now they replaced it with some stalker song. I really don’t want to be your friend! So I am switching to Starhub come April because i would rather pay a few bucks more every month for CS operators who have learnt to say “s-o-r-r-y” when the company screws up. It makes me feel better whether they mean it or not. What’s more Starhub gets the job done without me having to multiple trips to get the same answers.
Your rant made me feel much better as well. Thank you.
regards
Nani
left some thoughts on March 25th, 2011 12:20 am
I hope you don’t mind me linking your website to my post.
I have a very bad encounter with Singtel & I’m so glad I’m not the only one.
If Singtel has been doing this all the time to many customers, I guess the CEO should look into this isnt it?
Steph
left some thoughts on July 23rd, 2011 7:27 pm
If you’re unable to get Singtel’s tech or sales dept to assist, you might like to write to the Group CEO Chua Sock Koong. Also, you can let her know that you’ll be writing to the press. She’s listed on this Singtel webpage – http://info.singtel.com/about-us/board-management
*best to send your letter via Registered Mail
That’s what I did when I was having prob with the tech dept. I couldn’t use my internet, phone and Mio TV for more than a week. And the tech dept was refusing to re-connect a wire/line that had disconnected from the Singtel DP box as it was above 3m. They told me to get my own contractor to do it. Couldn’t get a contractor to do it, as all 3 that I called claimed that they were not “licensed” to touch the Singtel “box”.
After I wrote to Singtel’s GCEO and the press, the problem was rectified.
Ed
left some thoughts on December 2nd, 2011 7:44 am
Not surprised at all of this, don’t you know what SINGTEL stands for. I thought everyone in Singapore knew about this, it has been around for more than 10 years:
S: Service
I: Is
N: No
G: Good
T: Terrible; and
E: Extremely
L: Lousy.
I too have had very bad problems similar to those described – system not working, wrong billing, could not care less staff, very slow service – this is Singtel isnt it. Actual, I blame the CEO as she is responsible. The Singtel staff do the best they can, but the system and company is a big mess. Singtel is an embarrasement to Singapore – it is a joke company isnt it!
Laura
left some thoughts on January 18th, 2012 9:28 am
Ahhhh….at last I found so many people who share the same frustrations with me. I have 4 M1 lines for the past 15 years (started with just one, and then was so happy, contracted another 3), never ever had any problems (except for the queing for iphone)….I am a happy M1 customer. I gave Singtel a try and signed up last year in Feb 2011. I AM SO REGRETTING THAT FOOLISHNESS! After barely 2 months…..trouble started with overcharges…imagine my anoyance. So like yourselves, I went to and fro with ‘ShitTel’ for more than 20 times, and finally got the thing nearly resolved. Then I decided maybe because the basic line is a bit of problem and went ahead to upgrade to iphone plan (ANOTHER FOOLISHNESS!). Spoke to the staff, agreed over the phone, confirmed 3 times, hung up, and then told my son “hey good news, you can now serve the net with your phone”. After only 2 months….lo and behold!….the bill came up to more than $400.00! Of course I’m upset! I called them up this morning to ask what happened. Christine said my phone plan is NOT iphone plan!…….THAT’S IT, I’VE HAD IT, I WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER, IN MY ENTIRE LIFE OR MY SONS’ ENTIRE LIFE, OR MY GRANDCHILDRENS’ LIFE, NEVER TO USE SINGTEL EVER AGAIN…I repeat…NEVER TO USE SINGTEL EVER AGAIN! So I am terminating it even if they now have overcharged me for no reason, and pay my FINAL bill to ShitTel and tell them to go to ‘get the hell off my face’! Sorry….I also had to rant. I hope the whole world knows how serious this is. IDA….please do something before you get a bad name!
Catherine
left some thoughts on June 26th, 2012 3:34 pm
Somehow wasn’t surprised to see this long chain of anti-Singtel posts, with some worse cases than me. They have been charging me with a number I don’t own for the past 3 months and after calling in 5 times, no reply, explanation and resolution was given. For those of you on Giro, please check your bills!!! Maybe they have too much business, but looks like it won’t be for long !